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Post by Will on Aug 13, 2014 1:15:58 GMT -5
Aren't you forgetting that homosexuality is a behavior. It's not something someone is. It's a behavior. There is no scientific data to confirm that anyone is born a homosexual. However there are tons of data supporting the sociological influence of homosexual behavior driving those who live this livestyle. You cannot biblically prove that homosexuality is a born trait. You can however read from genesis that men and women are to be fruitful and multiply. Those imbedded in homosexual behavior cannot multiply. No one on this earth is a born homosexual. They are merely living a lifestyle and participating in homosexual behavior. Why did God make a man and a woman in the garden of Eden? If Adam simply needed a person to have a relationship with why didn't God make another Man? Does the first mention principle of hermeneutics govern your your biblical interpretation? You will never find a homosexual person in the bible because homosexuality is a behavior and nothing more. Alcoholism is a behavior, adultery is a behavior, fornication is a behavior, idolatry is a behavior, and on and on.
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Post by Rev. Jim Cunningham on Sept 5, 2014 23:44:22 GMT -5
Aren't you forgetting that homosexuality is a behavior. It's not something someone is. It's a behavior. There is no scientific data to confirm that anyone is born a homosexual. However there are tons of data supporting the sociological influence of homosexual behavior driving those who live this livestyle. You cannot biblically prove that homosexuality is a born trait. You can however read from genesis that men and women are to be fruitful and multiply. Those imbedded in homosexual behavior cannot multiply. No one on this earth is a born homosexual. They are merely living a lifestyle and participating in homosexual behavior. Why did God make a man and a woman in the garden of Eden? If Adam simply needed a person to have a relationship with why didn't God make another Man? Does the first mention principle of hermeneutics govern your your biblical interpretation? You will never find a homosexual person in the bible because homosexuality is a behavior and nothing more. Alcoholism is a behavior, adultery is a behavior, fornication is a behavior, idolatry is a behavior, and on and on. Wow, this is some of that satanic anti-gay propaganda that Hitler used to justify murdering nearly a million homosexuals. But since Psalm 26 says, "Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit," I'm compelled to respond. "Aren't you forgetting that homosexuality is a behavior. It's not something someone is. It's a behavior."Homosexuality is NOT a behavior. SEX is a behavior. Homosexuality and heterosexuality are sexual orientations which exist even if a person is a virgin their entire life. "There is no scientific data to confirm that anyone is born a homosexual."And there is no scientific data to confirm that anyone is born a heterosexual. Lack of scientific data is not proof of something not existing. There's no SCIENTIFIC proof of God; yet He exists. "However there are tons of data supporting the sociological influence of homosexual behavior driving those who live this livestyle."Really? I'd like to see these "tons of data" for me to examine and question for myself. Please, share these tons of references with us. Let's stop this nonsense and get to the point. You are assuming that the "homosexual lifestyle" is a life of fornication. That is an absolute IGNORANT falsehood. Even if that were true, it would be your fault, since theocratic terrorists like yourself have psychologically degraded homosexuals for centuries and have prevented homosexuals from marrying, thus forcing them to relieve their natural human sexual urges by way of fornication. You created the situation for which you condemn them. If you think God is too stupid to see through that trick, you've got a big surprise waiting for you on Judgment Day. "You cannot biblically prove that homosexuality is a born trait."Actually, I can. And it was spoken at the mouth of our Lord and Savior Himself. In fact, Jesus Himself refers to THREE different types of eunuchs in the Gospels, saying, "For there are some eunuchs which were so born from their mother's womb [homosexuals], and there are some eunuchs which were made eunuchs of men [castrated], and there be eunuchs which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake [total abstinence/chastity]. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it." You see, those with an education know that the word "eunuch", which is often used in Scripture, refers to a male or a female, and does not always refer to a person whose genitals have been removed. A eunuch, throughout history, often referred to a homosexual, and is the reason so many kings employed them to keep the watch and charge of their wives and daughters. There would be no sexual threat to them from a homosexual. But this is irrelevant anyway since the absence of data in the bible does not create a prohibit. There are MILLIONS of medical, scientific and psychological facts that the Bible does not offer proof of; but that does not negate those facts. As a matter of fact, the bible was prepared for people like you who would try to use the "no biblical proof" gimmick to try to force your own perverted theocracy on others: "For where no law is, there is no transgression... Sin is not imputed when there is no law" - Romans 4:15 & 5:13. "You can however read from genesis that men and women are to be fruitful and multiply.Those imbedded in homosexual behavior cannot multiply."No, I can't, because Genesis tells us that ADAM AND EVE were to be fruitful and multiply, not me or you or anyone else. If that command was to all of mankind, then we would all be required to marry and have kids - and that doctrine is clearly renounced by Paul. Paul himself was not married. The ability or inability to have children has nothing to do with the ability to marry and have sex in that marriage. Did your parents, grandparents or great grandparents get divorced when they reached old age and could not bear children, or are their marriages still valid? That same book of Genesis says that the purpose for Adam's mate was, NOT to produce children, but to PREVENT LONELINESS. Again, you are greatly mistaken. What Bible are you reading? "No one on this earth is a born homosexual. They are merely living a lifestyle and participating in homosexual behavior."That is your own personal biased opinion. It's as ignorant as if I said, "No one on earth is born heterosexual. They are merely living a lifestyle and participating in heterosexual behavior." This "lifestyle" you speak of is only in your imagination. "Why did God make a man and a woman in the garden of Eden? If Adam simply needed a person to have a relationship with why didn't God make another Man?"I already covered that on the website ( GayChristianSurvivors.com)- and the stated requirements for posting questions in this forum stipulate that you should read the website FIRST to avoid wasting everyone's time trying to explain to you something already explained on the website. I'm not going to repost the content of the website here; you'll find the answer on the website. Had you read the website you would have seen that THE BIBLE most certainly does say that God did make another man for Adam. "Does the first mention principle of hermeneutics govern your your biblical interpretation? "Sorry, you'll need to write that legibly, please. "You will never find a homosexual person in the bible because homosexuality is a behavior and nothing more. Alcoholism is a behavior, adultery is a behavior, fornication is a behavior, idolatry is a behavior, and on and on."Again, you haven't read the website, and clearly you haven't read through the Bible, because there most certainly are gay people in the Bible - including a gay marriage. Go read the website and "study to show thyself approved unto God." Please don't post in this forum again until you have read through the website.
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