Post by Rev. Jim Cunningham on Nov 19, 2008 3:34:21 GMT -5
From: Manager Rev. Jim (Original Message) Sent: 1/20/2006 2:20 PM
Yes, it is true that males and females "fit" together. Absolutely no doubt about that whatsoever. If they did not, they would not be human, of course. But bear in mind that just because your thumb "fits" comfortably into your mouth doesn't mean you may be particularly interested in inserting that body part into that orifice. You see, it is ALSO TRUE that males & males fit together quite well, both physically and emotionally. In fact, VERY MUCH so. If they did not, they would not be human. This is the very reason why both the male and the female are crafted in, and come from, the exact same source, as opposed to males coming from one and females coming from another. A human is a human, regardless of what is between its legs. According to the Scriptures themselves, Eve’s ONLY qualifying factor which made her compatible for Adam was that she was “bone of his bones and flesh of his flesh”. THAT WAS ALL. And every human to come after them is also bones and flesh of Adam’s bones and flesh. Therefore we are all compatible for marriage regardless of sex organs.
In the womb ALL babies are inherently female. If the baby’s genetic code dictates that it will be a male, what becomes a clitoris in a female extends and becomes a thingy in a male, and what becomes the labia in females closes and seals up to create a scrotum in males (all males have a line resembling a scar running down the length of the scrotum where the one-time labia sealed together). Instead of ovaries forming, testicles form in their place and descend down to the scrotum. This is described very eloquently in the movie Jurassic Park when the scientists explain that they intentionally, at just the right time, deprived the dinosaur fetuses of the chromosomes necessary for them to become male, which produced all females. So, though the male (Adam) was created before the female (Eve), it is the reverse when babies are conceived, because Eve was taken out of Adam and now all children come out of Eve and BEGIN like Eve, because we ALL came out of Adam.
This is very profound because it shows that a human is always compatible with another human, whether they are of different or the same sex or race. What makes the difference when it comes to WHICH human you choose depends on your genetics and physical/mental/emotional ATTRACTION, all of which are unconscious aspects.
The interesting aspect of human attraction is that no two humans are alike, and no two humans have particular attractions for the same reason. So many people want to put gays in a cookie cutter mold and say "THIS is why people are gay.....". Look carefully at this list of the different reasons that people have come up with:
1) Your mental make up, from conception in the womb, is 100% tuned to be attracted to members of the same sex, and you will always be attracted only to members of the same sex just as you may be totally attracted to chocolate. You can never stop liking it (issues of abuse aside). Heterosexual or homosexual, everyone comes into their sexual identity at different times, and depending on how much the following "causes" had on your young life, who knows when you might bloom - at 5, 15, or 50 – and puberty has very little to do with it.
2) You were molested/seduced by a member of the opposite sex during a developmental stage of, or a weak moment in, your life, and
a) it permanently corrupted your mind against the opposite sex causing you to go to the same sex as the only option left, or
b) it permanently established in your mind that the opposite sex is not for you, as when you try a food for the first time and discover you hate it, or,
c) it was so vile to you because you were taken advantage of during a powerless state of mind that you despise the opposite sex ever after, or
d) an intensive combination of all three, or more.
3) You were molested/seduced by a member of the same sex during a developmental stage of, or a weak moment in, your life, and
a) it made you feel secure because an intimate male figure touches that inner part of you that needs a loving fatherly figure, or
b) it corrupted your mind in favor of the same sex because a natural barrier has been destroyed in your mind that would have otherwise never have been breeched by yourself, or,
c) it was such a wonderful experience that you continue to seek out the experience again as often as possible, or,
d) it registered in your mind that this must be the way sex is done, or,
e) it registered in your mind this is how to get attention and affection from males, or,
f) it merely confirmed in your heart that you are naturally gay (whether the molestation was intrusive or consenting not withstanding), or,
g) a complex combination of these plus other factors.
4) You were horribly mentally/physically/sexually assaulted or otherwise abused and emotionally damaged by a member of the opposite sex, which caused either a fear or a hatred or a loathing or a lack of interest toward physical or emotional intimacy with the opposite sex, forcing you to turn to the same sex because:
a) you're left with no other choice, or,
b) your wounded heart needed the consolation of like-minded persons (specifically members of the same-sex because they generally think alike), and that consolation turned to attraction because it was an emotionally healing interaction and you want to continue that interaction in a more deeper and physical way, or,
c) you felt emotionally protected and safe with other males, making you desire to delve deeper into that feeling, or,
d) a complex combination of all of the above with or without other factors.
5) Your same-sex parent (to your mind) was
a) abusively dominant, or overly masculine/feminine, which caused you to be fearful of your own masculinity/femininity, in turn causing a gap in your personal identity and drives you to need that balance masculinity/femininity from another person of the same sex.
b) distant and cold, or not always present, or never present, and the lack of appropriate natural physical contact (hugs, kisses, touching) from that parent remains as an inner void still needing to be filled, which converts to sexuality as you mature (which is also often the cause of sexual attraction toward a parent of the same sex), or,
c) more or overly affectionate and doting than the parent of the opposite sex, which made you desire this from members of the same sex, or,
d) a complex combination of all of the above and other factors.
6) Your opposite-sex parent (to your mind) was
a) abusively or aggressively dominant, or overly feminine/masculine, or distant and cold, or not always present, or never present, with a great void OR over abundance of any form of natural affection, which caused you to be fearful or hateful to, or repulsed by, the opposite sex because you connect that parent with members of that parent's sex.
7) You develop an unusually close, emotional bond with a member of the same sex due to a connection you feel for each other , which turns to a form of love that is so intense that it drops your guard or pushes aside all limits and taboos, and you seek to consummate that bond (whether your conscience is telling you that it is right or wrong); and if it cannot be fulfilled by the object of your heart's desire, you will be crushed and seek it vicariously with others, or you will act out those desire vicariously with others to avoid possibly destroying the friendship.
8) It is genetic.
9) It is a system-wide disability/birth defect in various parts of the brain that controls your emotions, your sex drive, AND your attractions.
10) Brainwashing.
11) You woke up one day and said, "Gee, I think I'll be homosexual today".
12) Fill in the blank with your own psycho-babble.
Yup, these and many many more, or a combination of any of these, are some of the reasons cooked up as to why gay people are gay. No two people are alike so no two people will have the same story – as evidenced by the massive amounts of excuses straights have had to invent as to why people are gay. Therefore you cannot presume that just because a so-called exgay person believes he or she has come to terms with the "cause" of THEIR homosexuality does not mean that it is the same cause for all homosexuals.
Note something very VERY important here. In the reverse, all of these "causes" listed above can ALSO be claimed as the causes of heterosexuality!
For me, I fall in the first slot (#1, above). I have always been homosexual (and knew it as young as four years old).
Now, of course, how you behave is an entirely other matter. NO personal identity (whether gay or straight) is a license to violate the Lord's laws on fornication and adultery. Gay and straight Christians must adhere to the Word of God and remain abstinent until a life partner is chosen (and then STAY in that partnership).
Don't try to BE anything. Whatever the Lord expects you to be, He will lead you into it in His timing as you walk obediently in Him.
God bless you,
Rev. Jim
FROM THE ARCHIVES OF
GayChristianSurvivors.com
25 March 2003
GayChristianSurvivors.com
25 March 2003
Yes, it is true that males and females "fit" together. Absolutely no doubt about that whatsoever. If they did not, they would not be human, of course. But bear in mind that just because your thumb "fits" comfortably into your mouth doesn't mean you may be particularly interested in inserting that body part into that orifice. You see, it is ALSO TRUE that males & males fit together quite well, both physically and emotionally. In fact, VERY MUCH so. If they did not, they would not be human. This is the very reason why both the male and the female are crafted in, and come from, the exact same source, as opposed to males coming from one and females coming from another. A human is a human, regardless of what is between its legs. According to the Scriptures themselves, Eve’s ONLY qualifying factor which made her compatible for Adam was that she was “bone of his bones and flesh of his flesh”. THAT WAS ALL. And every human to come after them is also bones and flesh of Adam’s bones and flesh. Therefore we are all compatible for marriage regardless of sex organs.
In the womb ALL babies are inherently female. If the baby’s genetic code dictates that it will be a male, what becomes a clitoris in a female extends and becomes a thingy in a male, and what becomes the labia in females closes and seals up to create a scrotum in males (all males have a line resembling a scar running down the length of the scrotum where the one-time labia sealed together). Instead of ovaries forming, testicles form in their place and descend down to the scrotum. This is described very eloquently in the movie Jurassic Park when the scientists explain that they intentionally, at just the right time, deprived the dinosaur fetuses of the chromosomes necessary for them to become male, which produced all females. So, though the male (Adam) was created before the female (Eve), it is the reverse when babies are conceived, because Eve was taken out of Adam and now all children come out of Eve and BEGIN like Eve, because we ALL came out of Adam.
This is very profound because it shows that a human is always compatible with another human, whether they are of different or the same sex or race. What makes the difference when it comes to WHICH human you choose depends on your genetics and physical/mental/emotional ATTRACTION, all of which are unconscious aspects.
The interesting aspect of human attraction is that no two humans are alike, and no two humans have particular attractions for the same reason. So many people want to put gays in a cookie cutter mold and say "THIS is why people are gay.....". Look carefully at this list of the different reasons that people have come up with:
1) Your mental make up, from conception in the womb, is 100% tuned to be attracted to members of the same sex, and you will always be attracted only to members of the same sex just as you may be totally attracted to chocolate. You can never stop liking it (issues of abuse aside). Heterosexual or homosexual, everyone comes into their sexual identity at different times, and depending on how much the following "causes" had on your young life, who knows when you might bloom - at 5, 15, or 50 – and puberty has very little to do with it.
2) You were molested/seduced by a member of the opposite sex during a developmental stage of, or a weak moment in, your life, and
a) it permanently corrupted your mind against the opposite sex causing you to go to the same sex as the only option left, or
b) it permanently established in your mind that the opposite sex is not for you, as when you try a food for the first time and discover you hate it, or,
c) it was so vile to you because you were taken advantage of during a powerless state of mind that you despise the opposite sex ever after, or
d) an intensive combination of all three, or more.
3) You were molested/seduced by a member of the same sex during a developmental stage of, or a weak moment in, your life, and
a) it made you feel secure because an intimate male figure touches that inner part of you that needs a loving fatherly figure, or
b) it corrupted your mind in favor of the same sex because a natural barrier has been destroyed in your mind that would have otherwise never have been breeched by yourself, or,
c) it was such a wonderful experience that you continue to seek out the experience again as often as possible, or,
d) it registered in your mind that this must be the way sex is done, or,
e) it registered in your mind this is how to get attention and affection from males, or,
f) it merely confirmed in your heart that you are naturally gay (whether the molestation was intrusive or consenting not withstanding), or,
g) a complex combination of these plus other factors.
4) You were horribly mentally/physically/sexually assaulted or otherwise abused and emotionally damaged by a member of the opposite sex, which caused either a fear or a hatred or a loathing or a lack of interest toward physical or emotional intimacy with the opposite sex, forcing you to turn to the same sex because:
a) you're left with no other choice, or,
b) your wounded heart needed the consolation of like-minded persons (specifically members of the same-sex because they generally think alike), and that consolation turned to attraction because it was an emotionally healing interaction and you want to continue that interaction in a more deeper and physical way, or,
c) you felt emotionally protected and safe with other males, making you desire to delve deeper into that feeling, or,
d) a complex combination of all of the above with or without other factors.
5) Your same-sex parent (to your mind) was
a) abusively dominant, or overly masculine/feminine, which caused you to be fearful of your own masculinity/femininity, in turn causing a gap in your personal identity and drives you to need that balance masculinity/femininity from another person of the same sex.
b) distant and cold, or not always present, or never present, and the lack of appropriate natural physical contact (hugs, kisses, touching) from that parent remains as an inner void still needing to be filled, which converts to sexuality as you mature (which is also often the cause of sexual attraction toward a parent of the same sex), or,
c) more or overly affectionate and doting than the parent of the opposite sex, which made you desire this from members of the same sex, or,
d) a complex combination of all of the above and other factors.
6) Your opposite-sex parent (to your mind) was
a) abusively or aggressively dominant, or overly feminine/masculine, or distant and cold, or not always present, or never present, with a great void OR over abundance of any form of natural affection, which caused you to be fearful or hateful to, or repulsed by, the opposite sex because you connect that parent with members of that parent's sex.
7) You develop an unusually close, emotional bond with a member of the same sex due to a connection you feel for each other , which turns to a form of love that is so intense that it drops your guard or pushes aside all limits and taboos, and you seek to consummate that bond (whether your conscience is telling you that it is right or wrong); and if it cannot be fulfilled by the object of your heart's desire, you will be crushed and seek it vicariously with others, or you will act out those desire vicariously with others to avoid possibly destroying the friendship.
8) It is genetic.
9) It is a system-wide disability/birth defect in various parts of the brain that controls your emotions, your sex drive, AND your attractions.
10) Brainwashing.
11) You woke up one day and said, "Gee, I think I'll be homosexual today".
12) Fill in the blank with your own psycho-babble.
Yup, these and many many more, or a combination of any of these, are some of the reasons cooked up as to why gay people are gay. No two people are alike so no two people will have the same story – as evidenced by the massive amounts of excuses straights have had to invent as to why people are gay. Therefore you cannot presume that just because a so-called exgay person believes he or she has come to terms with the "cause" of THEIR homosexuality does not mean that it is the same cause for all homosexuals.
Note something very VERY important here. In the reverse, all of these "causes" listed above can ALSO be claimed as the causes of heterosexuality!
For me, I fall in the first slot (#1, above). I have always been homosexual (and knew it as young as four years old).
Now, of course, how you behave is an entirely other matter. NO personal identity (whether gay or straight) is a license to violate the Lord's laws on fornication and adultery. Gay and straight Christians must adhere to the Word of God and remain abstinent until a life partner is chosen (and then STAY in that partnership).
Don't try to BE anything. Whatever the Lord expects you to be, He will lead you into it in His timing as you walk obediently in Him.
God bless you,
Rev. Jim