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Post by Rev. Jim Cunningham on Nov 19, 2008 3:36:36 GMT -5
From: UneBalle (Original Message) Sent: 11/6/2005 3:49 PM
My mental health counselor refers to sexual oreintation in this manner:
10% of the population is true gays.
10% of the population is true heterosexuals.
Everyone else falls someplace in between.
Has anyone else heard it refered in this matter? And do you think there is truth to my couselors statements?
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Post by Rev. Jim Cunningham on Nov 19, 2008 3:37:06 GMT -5
From: Manager Rev. Jim Sent: 12/5/2005 9:49 PM
As far as the percentage ratio on sexuality goes, I'll say first off that this can become a very touchy subject to some people, especially when it is brought into biblical light. This is because there are many "gay Christians" in name only, who do not take God's strict moral code seriously.
Be that as it may, by the very format of biblical law, indeed by the whole text of the Scriptures itself, I simply cannot believe that such a vast spectrum of human sexuality is correct in the sight of God. While this vast spectum may EXIST, it does not mean that it is ordained of God, condoned by God or blessed by God. By my own observations, and using the Scriptures as a standard by which to judge, I am convinced that if a whopping 80% of society is wavering in their sexuality, with only 10% each of true heterosexuals and homosexuals, it can mean nothing more nor less than what Leviticus and Romans have so specifically defined it to be: men and women are LEAVING their nature to do that which is unseemly.
What I think is truly happening here is NOT that such an absurd number of people have an inherent bisexuality, but that there is a total lack of control over lusts. As I've mentioned before in previous messages, there are a great many reasons why heterosexuals might dabble with members of the same sex - loneliness, a need for comfort, a need to control or be controlled, a complete loss of sensitivity toward moral issues, etc. But whatever the reason, whatever the cause, God's Law - which is supreme and over-rules any thoughts or opinions of Man - strictly prohibits the violation of one's nature in sexual matters. There is so much fornication carrying on these days, with society thinking that it is each person's RIGHT to have sex with whom ever they wish, that people have literally become numb to what is right and wrong. In fact, the Bible even predicted this when it foretold the days when people will call what is right "wrong" and what is wrong "right". No one, according to the Lord, should be having sex with ANYONE unless it is with the person he or she is married to. If everyone abided by this mandate I seriously doubt there would be so much confusion in the minds of men as to their sexuality. Each person would grow into their sexuality, and when the time is right to marry, they would know to whom they would want to be married - male or female. But when everyone is sleeping with everyone else in defiance of God's law, and sex & sensuality is flaunted in our faces day and night from every quarter, can we truly be surprised that such a huge percentage of people have no idea anymore as to whether they are gay or straight!?
For myself, I believe that the majority of the population is 100% heterosexual, a minority of the population is 100% homosexual, an extremely miniscule percentage is truly bisexual - and any deviation by the people in each respective category is exactly that: deviation.
Love in Christ,
Rev. Jim
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Post by Rev. Jim Cunningham on Nov 19, 2008 3:37:44 GMT -5
From: JonLandre Sent: 12/7/2005 6:44 PM
Oh my! God! Rev. Jim, you are coming off sounding closed minded. In fact, you sound a lot like Jim Baker, Jerry Falwell, the Pope, and many others who identify as "right" wing. You are correct when you say, the Bible even predicts the days when people will call what is right "wrong" and what is wrong "right". Well I guess that day is here as the right wing is "wrong" and what is wrong is "right" wing. It is not up to us to judge the world, but to bring the world into the presence of God so that the judgment can be done by the proper authority. Until then, there is hope for everyone! I do not refer to a hope which people are driven into by fear, but rather a hope which attracts people into the very presence of God where people experience transformation.
This discussion on "what is really gay" has nothing to do with how people choose to express themselves sexually. It has simply been a discussion of sexuality, not sex. To make this into a discussion of sexual "deviation" or better put, the many ways people choose to express themselves sexually (right or wrong) is to get way off the track of the original topic.
I am a gay man living with my husband, yes we are married. But I also acknowledge that I am less than 100% homosexual. We have two beautiful daughters by my first spouse and five wonderful grandchildren. I guess by your standards I am a deviate. You know, the other side (that which is referred to as "right" wing), also sees me as a deviate. I will tell you as I have told many of them, please tend to the beam in your own eye before you try to even diagnose the splinter in my eye. You are blinded by your own narrowmindedness. In keeping with the spirit of the "right" wing, I wonder why you don't write your letters in the "original" language of the Bible - isn't that the queen's english? (Queen James) Now there's a true deviate if I ever heard of one!
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, educated or not, closed minded or open minded. Respectfully submitted in God's love as expressed by true forgiveness, I remain,
Pastor Jon Landre
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Post by Rev. Jim Cunningham on Nov 19, 2008 3:38:10 GMT -5
From: Manager Rev. Jim Sent: 12/21/2005 2:34 AM
Pastor Jon,
I've already stated my view, and I stand by it. Attacks against my character, and any other insults, will not alter that. As I've clearly stated for years on the front page of this website, I am a conservative fundamental Bible-believing Christian who is gay and PRO-gay. However, I will never consent to the broad license that most "gay christians" presume they have. God's Word makes it abundantly clear (at least, to me) that, though He is a loving God, He is also a strict Father, and He does not now nor will He ever tolerate this loose theology which is so rampant among gay Christians who think that just because "God made me gay" it must also mean that we can jump through loopholes to bypass God's law on obedience and holiness - whether in deed or THOUGHT. And that is where I stand, regardless of who argrees with me or not. Jesus said, "Be ye perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." If this command of Jesus were impossible for us to fulfill, He would not have ordained it among us. I happen to personally believe that "bisexuality" is merely an excuse - whether intentionally or UNintentionally - by many people in an attempt to circumvent God's moral laws. You are welcome to continue to compare me, erroniously, to the false Christian men you've mentioned; though it will neither change my view of God's Word nor change my relationship with the Father.
Respectfully,
Rev. Jim
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